I've seen people groove during sunday brunch.
Not that anyone dances, of course, but you get to play out.
go down and check out the trendy/hip/urban part of your town, and you may stumble on a spot like this.
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ella meno |
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I don't know how progressive High Wycombe is, but around here a lot of coffee shops, cafes and lounges, have decks set up.
I've seen people groove during sunday brunch. Not that anyone dances, of course, but you get to play out. go down and check out the trendy/hip/urban part of your town, and you may stumble on a spot like this. |
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BASSsic |
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BASSsic |
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Ok, Wycombe is in Bucks... same thing.
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Jusali |
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Sorry Lee
Jus .....and my senses tell me
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Slee1210 |
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No, it's about playing good music and giving your audience a enjoyable time in whatever environment and mood they happen to be in.
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Unbroken1 |
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Quote: ...but often they do want to dance! and those times make it all worthwhile!! There aren't too many 'up for it gurners' these days, but on occasion, the right combination of a good crowd, and vodka/tequila shots, (with maybe the odd gurner!) and it can really go off... |
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BASSsic |
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Dan's a one man up for it gurning army. Invite him to your nite and it will be a good'un.
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Jusali |
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Quote: However everyone has different interpretations of "good" music, some think it's missy elliot some think it's the darkness and some think it's infusion (and my senses tell me). All the DJ's who broke the scene back in the day played what the @#%$ they liked and were ambasadors for their type of music. Andy is a good DJ it just seems a shame that being a jukebox in a bar is the best of the suggestions being offered to him. Lets just face it Lee we have differing opinions and neither is better than the other so stop trying to get one up all the time, what is it that bugs you so much about my opinions anyway? Jus .....and my senses tell me
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Unbroken1 |
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Quote: ...hang on a sec, who said anything about being a jukebox in a bar?? I can't always get away with playing anything I want to play... but I certainly don't encourage requests!! (unless they are damn good ones! which is erm...never) It's all well and good playing what the fvck you like and being 'ambassadors for their type of music', but we are talking about getting a set in a bar for the experience of playing out to a crowd, and playing what the fvck you like will not be appreciated, nor will it likely ever get you booked again... The skill is in digging a little deeper, and finding the tracks that appeal to the masses, even though they may not even know them... I play loads of Dr Kucho, Groove Armada, even old disco re-edits early in the evening, and if things are going well, you'll reach a situation where by the end of the night you can play what you want and they'll lap it up... I'd love the opportunity to play the main room at a heads-down dance club week-in-week-out where the music is the be-all-and-end-all, but in a world of 'too many DJ's' the odds are that ain't gonna happen, and it's even less likely to happen to someone who has zero experience of playing out. |
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Jusali |
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Fair enough that's cool, but as I pointed out there are other options, which can be very rewarding.
Jus .....and my senses tell me
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tw0badmice |
Fight, fight, fight | ||
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oooh, it were nearly like the olden days, a thread with development.....
why can't there be more of these on here? C'mon Lee we wanna see your retaliation...... |
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Unbroken1 |
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...proper discussion 'fing 'innit!?? Quote: |
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DeeepFish |
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wow, this thread has certainly developed... but where is Andy?! I also had a brief listen to your mix - very lush, smooth and nicely put together - but totally unsuitable for your local bar in High Wycombe. And as much as I love the deep melodic prog sound, there's not a massive market for it in the London club scene either. Having said that, I agree with Unbroken's comments about building a set, getting the crowd into what your doing (they don't have to be eed up for you to do this) so that by the end you can play what you like. Another point I wanna make is that regardless if its a bar or club, people are these days more concerned about the people / atmosphere in a place than the DJ on the bill. Of course, depending on the place, the DJ can have an enormous effect on that atmosphere, but often he's just one of the ingredients that make a night work. |
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Gazzmann |
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I tend to play totally different tunes out than what I put on a mix cd, it's all about playing to the crowd and a bar would be good to learn this, I started playing sets like mix cds, that doesn't go down very well....
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Slee1210 |
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Quote: Rag week again Justin? You pigeon-holed DJing as something that is only "right" when playing to a bunch of mashed up nutters. I disagree with that, and would expect the majority of readers here would agree. You play records for a purpose: to entertain people. Whether that is just yourself at home or a stadium full of people. You look to play what you consider to be "good" music that is "appropriate" for the current scenario (warm up, peak time, early hours, etc) and people's moods. If you're not, then I don't think you're doing your job properly. I'm not victimising you Jus, I just don't agree with you on this point. I think DJing is more than simply rocking a club, it's a skill that is applicable in a variety of situations. This thread is about playing in a bar, an evironment that the "well-rounded" DJ (not Sneak We is all friends here amigo. |
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Gar3th Cheshire |
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maybe i should write a diary of day to day activity in the run up to our party, challenges, problems etc would that be of any use andy? obviously liverpool is a different kettle of fish compared to wycome but it may come in handy none the less.
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Red Lemming |
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I reckon that would be wicked, Gareth. Here in Chch there's a bit of a house scene, but there's a lot of small town petty politics, and I quickly came to the conclusion that if I was going to stick around I'd have to start my own night with a mate here. But I don't really know what's involved, some sort of diary/weblog thing would be excellent.
Oh, and what Slee said. I fvckin hate turning up to a bar/club when the "warm-up" DJ is bashing out the dark tribal prog. It just sounds stupid. Of course, with rapidly advancing age, increasingly I hate it when the peak time DJ is bashing out prog too |
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joenzyL |
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Quote: An amen to that, any genre tend to be a bore wherever you go(unless your fueled up by far), take a man like Garnier or the MAW's, they blend genres and dare to play whatever they feel like(in fresh memory when Garnier dropped Eurutmics "Sweet Dreams" and the crowd just went nuts, mind that was in 1997 long before it got "retro chic"), these guys would certainly rock any venue they step into......even disguised as bikers........ If you learn how to rock a dodgy pub, a wedding or a private party, and still feel like you are "caning" or being generally creative, then you're certainly taking your thing a few steps from the bedroom....imo Quote: er......... "groundbreaking" Dj's who did quite the opposite............back in the days 1. ca 1980-present Africa Bambaata-Rap/Punk/New wave/electro/eurodisco you name it.... 2. ca 1990-present Yet again the MAW's-Hip hop/house/disco/pop/rock 3. ca 1980-present Francoise K-any genre you've ever heard of ... And btw if Im not mistaken, Andy had some cool non-genre implicating references on his radio apperance?(radio=100% cool! I'd die for doing a radio thingie |
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DJAndyD |
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Wow, talk about opening up a can of worms, hehe.
Thanks for all the replies people, having discussions like this really helps to bring to light all the possibilities on offer... To be honest, I'm not overly concerned about being the centre of attention wherever I'm playing (though that would be nice), just getting people to hear tunes I'm getting into would be enough really. Though then again this poses the problem that the stuff I play really isn't all that background-y (as has been said). I think what I need to do is find somewhere, anywhere, that has some sort of a proper dance music scene. However, that does seem to be easier said than done at the moment. Putting on my own night seems to really be the way to go, but then again, this poses the problem of actually finding some people to come along to it... I also agree that putting together a good CD (thanks for all the positive comments by the way people Gareth, if you could that would be very helpful indeed. You're right about the two scenes being very different, but hopefully some principles will apply to both. I guess I just basically need to get some kind of action plan together now, decide what the best way of going about it all is, whether it be putting on my own parties, or trying to find a night with a similar sound to mine and seeing if they'll give me a shot. Then, whichever way seems the best, just seeing what the most effective way to go about it is... Thanks for the replies so far, and keep your thoughts coming, this has turned into a really interesting discussion. You guys rock. Thanks again, Andy The journey's gonna be long, gotta keep ya head down, gotta be strong... |
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Red Lemming |
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Quote: I have a couple of friends like this. Thankfully they'll both be at my gig tomorrow night. Instant party - just add drugs! |
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